If someone believed the earth was flat, would you engage with them in a debate or discussion?
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...I'd just...kind of facepalm at them and walk away. I wouldn't even have the strength to engage them in debate OR discussion, sir.
Well, when I first read it I thought wow interesting that would call for a really silly debate.
Yet, possibly because I just five minutes ago finished reading 1984, I can see the logic to back up that comment.
Personally what evidence do I have to say that the earth is round. I have learnt of many different philosiphers like christopher colombus and aristotle who proposed with hard evidence that the earth is spherical, due to the fact that when sailing you can not see straight down to the ends of the earth.
Yet, (applying the principles of 1984) how would I know if there weren't some other reason why that happened I never investigated to find out myself. I simply believed what I was told ' the earth is round' and i accepted the logic behind it.
Really you'd have to think further than that, because I'm sure it must sound silly by now.
For example what if I told you the universe was a round ball, wouldn't it sound extremely peculiar. But wouldn't it also be a good explanation as to why we wold never be able to reach the end of the universe. See somethings like this depends on logic in which logic is mere imagination.
Aristotle must have imagined that the world being round is the reason why our eyes only see so far and yet it seems logical.
What if for example logic was mere imagination. and I for example told you that instead of planets attracting objects (gravity) they repelled it will at the same time repelling energy in which that energy from all the planets in the solar system met a central concentrated point that formed the sun. and the reason why we cling to earth is because we earthlings are apart of earth which makes us hard to seperate. or that the the repelling gravity from the sun is so strong that it forces us onto the planet we now reside and everything else on the planet.
See in my mind I can turn that into logic and all i simply have to do is convey it as logic in your mind. so for all we now, at least for all I know there could be some logic behind the world being flat. I'm not saying that it is because satellite pictures show otherwise, but who knows.
well in simplier words if you haven't followed, I know I'm horrible at explaining, if someone came to me and said the earth is flat i would say 'maybe' and then walk away.
No because if someone says it, doesnt make it the truth. You could believe that person, but its still an opinion. Untill and Unless you 'get out'and find out for yourself you will never know for sure, whether its a fact or another opinion.
I believe EVERYTHING is open to debate. This world is so vast and the ideas that each one of the 7 billion humans have are countless.
Every one has ideas, be it bizarre or logical. These ideas are only thought of, however there is no proof that it is true. Even after scientific research, I think everything is prone to error. Merely because we have been taught or told that the earth is spherical does not mean it is. Yes, there is evident research to back up these theories but what if they are wrong? What if there are other reasons behind it?
It's a bit of a convoluted topic. We need to think way ahead. Like Shaday said, what if logic itself was just imagination? I assume everything is open to doubt and question.
I just reread the post and realized it is not what your response would be but rather is everything open for debate. and agreeing with moza i think everything is reason being mentioned earlier.
Like Moza said, there are 7 billion people in the world, and all of them have their individual views.
Yet the flat earth society-*sighs* I'm not sure if I can keep my mind that open. It just seems silly.
But then again, that is just my view. There must be people who don't agree, and people who do, and that’s why it is called debate- different views. So yes, everything is open to debate.
If someone believed the earth was flat then I would definitely engage with them in debate or discussion. I think debates and discussions are a great way to get points across. Plus I would have enough ‘ammunition’ to convince the Flat Earth Society.
The only ideas that wouldn’t be up for debate are those that humans don’t actually have any answers to like; ‘Why am I here?’
No not everything is subject to being debated. I believe that when it comes to opinions and suggestions, ethnics and morales... Everything is open to debate.
But wether the earth is round or flat... I could easily show them a satellite image and prove them wrong. They wouldn't even have any points to rebuttal with.
Well I think anything and everything can be open to a debate or discussion. We are all different and we think in different ways. 7 billion people = 7 billion minds = 7 billion views = 7 beliefs. BUT I’m going to have to agree with Raya on this matter, I would merely show them a satellite picture to which will leave them wordless and prove them to be inaccurate.
Agreeing with what Moza said, I think a lot of things are open to debate merely because there are so many opinions and beliefs in the world.
Personally, I don't think the Earth is flat because there is scientific evidence proving that it is infact, spherical but I'm sure this person has his/her views on it and voila, we have a debate.
The world is constantly changing with new theories and concepts being brought up almost every single day and with that, I believe come disagreements resulting in discussions and debates. :)
I DON'T believe that the Earth is flat, but everyone said they would show the Flat earth Society a satellite image to prove them wrong, but what if you're the one that's wrong?
Picture editing and doctoring can easily be done. What if the collective government or some higher power/the you-know-what-i'm-talking-abouts want you to believe that? How do you know that they have not sent out their own astronauts under the cover of NASA to bring back false images, and have scoured every publicly-viewed media to ensure we believe the Earth is round (1984-style). Have you yourself gone 'out there' to be so sure of your facts? Everything could be an illusion and our whole world, a fantasy. As Mr Roberts often points out, 'You cannot believe everything you see on the news.'
On that note, I believe, 'YES' everything is open to debate.
Well,I wouldn't just go and start debating against someone without having enough points in my hands. In this case, I would certainly share a piece of my mind as I am fairly confident in the rotundity of the Earth.
Yes,everything is open to debates but I think there are particular topics that should not be used for disputing over, just for the sake of moral values and to not offend anyone. Example such as religion. That wouldn't end in a very pleasant manner.
Honesty, I would most probably end up debating with the person, as, like most of us, I do believe that the earth is spherical, EVEN THOUGH I have no evidence myself. But I actually don't think one can whole heartedly ever say that they only believe what they see, because, then you'd not really believe in anything. I think more than 80% of what we know, or what we think we know, I guess, are not things that we've seen for ourselves, but rather, things that others have learned, and shared with us. Besides, I think belief is a pretty strong emotion, and that we all need to feel it.
Even though I feel like EVERYTHING is debatable, [Really.. with so many theories and ideas, it really is endless..] I also believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, no matter how bizarre or how rational the idea.
To each their own.
^Sumaya, you say you would debate a person who believes the Earth is flat. Yet you say you have no evidence. How would you hope to convince them? :)
(btw, there are lots of very simple ways to prove the Earth is not flat - you don't have to be a scientist. I'd be interested to hear from the rest of the group about how to prove the Earth is not flat)
Rameesa:
I'd be like 'Great. Good for you. Kbye.' Such debates are endless since neither of the parties choose to back down. A few are of the type that make you actually walk to a wall and bang your head there.
Its better to just walk away.
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