Yob arrested after he bought £1.99 goldfish and then swallowed it in pet shop.
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Should the man have been arrested or not? What do you think?
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Atrocious is what i think of an act as monsterous as this. It's shockingly brutal. Why in heaven's sake would any sane human being even intend to do such thing? To satisy their savage ego, maybe? Or 'Just for the heck of it'? Either way, i find it cannibalic.
It's not JUST a fish. It breathes, hunts for food, reproduces and has a life just like us. Well, not precisely like us, but its still a living organism with a beating heart.
Anyone may be influenced by this cold-blooded behaviour and thus punishment must be taken into consideration to make the rest aware of the consequences of such demeanour.
Concluding that, yes i suppose the man should have been arrested. Especially in a country like the UK where cruelty to animals is utterly intolerant!
YES!!!
if he wanted to eat a fish, he could have gone to a restaurant to eat a properly cooked fish, why eat an alive fish... and he bought the fish for 1.99, which means he legally bought the right to keep the fish as a pet and not kill and eat it!!!
For my part, I have a phobia when it comes to live fish and i started getting unsteady reading the article >.<
But the heart of the matter is that how do you think the poor little goldfish felt like? There are many cultures, particularly the chinese, that fry fish alive and consume them in their every day life. But would the fish have tasted any different if they decided to kill it first?
In my opinion, It is not a necessity for our survival and it is not a necessity of circumstance. So why not spare the pitiable fish some pain?
I thoroughly agree with the man being arrested, because if it wasn't animal cruelty then what was it? How would we ourselves feel if we were carved and chewed alive? After-all, we are not that different from the fish. We can both feel, breath and sense. We're both living creatures.
Considering from all the stories that I have heard about what the influence of alcohol has on people, I wouldn't have guessed this.
True, it is a cannibalistic act but it is definitely not the first seen. Many exotic restaurants around the world serve live game meat such as baby squid which is indeed alive and 'breathing' in front of you. I believe you have to wrap up the tentacles around the chopstick before you eat it so that the moving squid doesn't poison you.
Just to refer to what Moza said, I hope you are vegetarian, for which otherwise, the fact that it was a 'breathing animal' would not make much difference to a non vegetarian.
It does seem extremely childish for someone to 'down' a fish alive, let alone a gold fish but I am quite certain there are much more horrendous acts carried out by youngsters today.
If he should be charged, I think it should only be done so for posting the video on a social networking site, where it would be open to a lot of people and could influence an outbreak of such foolish acts, but not for eating it alive.
Otherwise, I feel that the County have been highly ignorant to some cultures.
People shouldn’t make a huge issue about the man swallowing the fish. As far as I can see he seems like a maniac who enjoys doing inappropriate things. Because of his disrespectful behavior he probably caused chaos in the store. I think what the man did was abominable. Though I don’t think the man should have been arrested but should have been in custody of the police and they should have investigated him.
Priyanka and Edeline: Im not really vegetarian but i am definitely thinking of converting into one soon. I just need the commitment. Its not quite as easy as i thought it was considering the fact that i've bene brought up as a non-vegetarian.
I rest my case :)
Is this real?
If someone wanted fish then why not eat a fish intended for human consumption? I disagree with Moza about the fact that it is a living organism and is 'Not JUST a fish' because that argument could be used for any animal on the planet and I don't see too many people that are vegetarian, but the fact that after paying for it he went right ahead and ate it, there and then is nearly to gruesome for words. Any child in the pet shop at that point of time could unnecessarily be traumatised because, if a cold-hearted person like that could eat a sweet little gold fish without a second thought , they'd be haunted with the thought of people like that near their own goldfish, other pets and even for their own safety.
I feel pure disgust at this stunt and feel that the "yob" should be put in jail, even if for a short sentence, but long enough to make him feel regret and remorse for his actions and as a warning to all other jokesters around thinking of having a good laugh at another, defenceless animal's expense!
Ye arrest is what he deserves ... its Animal Cruelty even though its just a fish! And ye i basically agree with the others... the fish has been sold to this man as a pet and not as food ... even though from the second he paid the money the fish was of his belonging it still has its own "rights"! :P
Points to ponder:
1) People eat fish all the time. The goldfish is a fish.
2) The man did pay for it. It was his fish when he swallowed it.
3) If people slaughter cows, sheep, frogs, ducks, deer, whales, and miscellaneous poultry by the millions, should this man have been arrested for swallowing a goldfish?
4) If we own a pet, can we eat it? (People eat dogs and cats in China)
5)Is it not just as cruel to keep goldfish in tiny bowls and birds in cages?
Look at it this way, if you go into a restaurant and order the 'fresh lobster,' they take you to the tank and then you pick one of them and 40 minutes later its on your plate.
Isn't it the same thing? But is it acceptable because it is done in a more sophisticated manner? Is everyone thinking of this in a negative way because goldfish are considered house pets? People eat cats and dogs a lot in certain places, but perhaps the way we see it is different. I cant promote actions like eating a live goldfish in public, as I would never do anything like that.
Perhaps it was the public's reactions that caused him to get arrested. Personally, I think they were over-reacting so he shouldn't have gotten arrested, but that's just MY opinion.
Genuinely,it took me several times to actually comprehend the dilemma posted. The next thing I knew, I couldn't help but to chuckle at myself at this lad, who gravely needs to pay a visit to a psychologist!
True,this is a clear display of hooliganism,extreme insanity and also the best example of how unhinged a person can go under the influence of alcohol. But at the same time, if he's being arrested for swallowing a fish on the grounds of animal savagery,shouldn't ALL of us get arrested for consuming animals;pet or not? Every animal whether it's domestic or pet,they're all living organisms with beating hearts.
Cutting to the chase, this man is more than eligible to be arrested and held under custody. Acts as lunatic as this should be rigorously pointed out in the very beginning itself,that it's absolutely wrong and intolerable. At least by jailing and applying hefty fines on this man, it will be a reminder to other youngsters out there to prevent themselves from indulging in mind-blowingly stupid acts and demeanour as such in the future. Because I agree with Priyanka, there are plenty of horrendous acts carried out by teens these days.
Hopefully,with this arrest, youngsters are finally able to distinguish between what's fun and what's not.
**Genuinely,it took me several minutes to actually comprehend the dilemma posted. The next thing I knew, I couldn't help but to chuckle to myself,at this lad, who gravely needs to pay a visit to a psychologist!
This actually allowed me to think twice about eating animals.
But Yoan has a point about the fresh lobster. The person paid for it therefore it wasn't considered "stealing" but if your talking about animal cruelty then that's a different story.
Mr.Roberts is right about how keeping goldfish in small bowls are considered animal cruelty. I mean, maybe this man does love animals. Maybe he eats fish all the time. In my opinion, its not like he tortured the fish and left it to die. Plus he PAID for it, its his and he should have the right to do whatever he wants with it. I mean its only a fish after all right.
It would be a different story if he ate a dog or a cat because that would be insensate.
The fact that he posted it on facebook is wrong, i don't agree to that at all. What is the point of showing people how insensitive you are? Or did he do it to prove a point?
Overall, i dont think he should have been arrested. Punished, yes. Community service or something less serious would have been more appropriate.
Well honestly, I really don’t see why people are making such a big deal about this adolescent chap, yes he ate a goldfish but it is still a fish non the less. And I’m willing to bet that 90% of us are non-vegetarian. People consume cows, chickens, ducks, pigs and various other animals everyday, so why should this man get arrested for simply gulping down a fish? I mean does that intend we should get arrested for eating fish/and or other animals too?
Although I did think that it was inappropriately insensitive of him to eat it alive and to do so in front of other viewers let alone he might have influenced any youngster at that store. And as displeasing as it sounds he posted it on face book?? Seriously I don’t get his outcome of doing so. Was it so that he can get self gratitude from it? Was he trying to prove a point? Or was he merely trying to show people how callous we can be for eating animals, dead or alive?
All in all I frankly believe that he shouldn’t have gotten arrested. But like most of you have stated, I do think that he should have been punished and taken responsibility for his actions.
I disagree this man should not have been arrested. He bought the fish in the store and what he chooses to do with it is completely up to him. Many little eager kids by these goldfish for themselves and maybe after a months time the fish dies from lack of nurture. Does this mean that the police should go around arresting little kids. In both situatins the goldfish has died a memorable death yet only in one is action taken
I defend Yoan's and Shafnaa's statement; just because goldfish is considered to be a pet doesn't mean that it is inedible. It is just like all the other animals we tend to eat on a daily bases. What makes a goldfish so different. If you have a problem with eating a goldfish then shouldn't you have a problem with eating all animals, they are all living creatures. In that case I would highly recommend you considering being a vegetarian.
Yes i admit that eating a goldfish seems a bit unheard of, but to call the man a lunatic is completely absurd. You cannot epect a person to have the same likes and interest as you do. Their interest may differ for so many different reasons like their culture, the enviromnet they grew up in and their overall personality. Saying that this man is psycho is like saying people that like butter on their toast is completely insane only because you or the people around you don;t butter your toast.
I would agree that this man should have been arrested if the animal held some special signifcance like being the country's national fish making a rule against eating that animal. Otherwise i do not believe that this drastic measure should have been taking. A short conversation politely asking the gentleman to refrain from such actions in public places would have been more than suffice.
It was cruel to swallow the fish in the pet store, and even more pathetic that the 'prank' was posted on to facebook to watch for amusement.
I agree with Priyanka, this is not the first seen, and there are places where people eat live creatures- but at the same time, asking the shopkeeper to put it the goldfish in a glass, and then to swallow it, while his friend was laughing and videotaping it, just displays Mr Caswell's immaturity.
Answering the question, he definatley should have been arrested, atleast for a short time, so that he could understand not only the stupidity of his prank, but also to realise it was high time to grow up.
That is just ridiculous! WHY was he arrested? It was his fish, he paid for the God damn thing, and they ARRESTED him for eating his own fish? Why? People all over the world eat live sea-food; in fact, eating a live octopus is actually an art. Anyway, the point here is that what he does with his fish is his business! Don't people eat candy in pet-stores? He ate it, so what? It was his decision to make, and I think it's just a waste of time 'arresting' people like him. People get away with actual offences like serial murders but get caught for eating a FISH; that's just amazingly hilarious.
...personally, I wouldn't eat my goldfish. I become to emotionally attached to things.
But I think I agree with Faiza on this point. I mean, it would have been much more tactful to actually have gone home and fried the thing - sushi does not apply in this case, dude - but...well, he paid for it.
I'd rather the fish have been killed ceremoniously and eaten but...well, his fish, his food?
Alternately, it was a petshop. You don't buy cows from a petshop - that I know of - nor do you buy chicken. The animals sold there are to be used as pets, animal companions, not gastronomical delicacies. If you wanna eat fish, there's tons of markets you could go to. I understand why people would be angry over this, but again, it all has to do about the context.
"Person buys fish from markets, eats it, is arrested."
...lol. Yet that's what happens everyday, minus the arrest.
But then again, the fish was already dead when you bought it in the market, killed for the purpose of being consumed.
Context. Context. Context.
That's absolutely outrageous in so many ways. Firstly... This fine line between animal cruelty and food is pathetic. If he were to have caught the fish, it wouldn't have been cruelty it would be a man catching a fish and consuming it.
Secondly, how the police could possibly waste there time on something so small and insignificant is beyond me. Now I understand the phrase is a little exaggerated but honestly a 'police raid' on his house sounds silly.
But I would have to agree that it was pure idiocy, and the man should be prosecuted, but not with this amount of seriousness.
What idiots. Yes he definatily deserved it. When you buy an animal from a pet store, you should be intending to take care of it, not down it on video. Regaurdless if he was or wasn't drunk while doing it.
If drinking and driving isn't a good enough reason to ban alcohol all together , perhaps authorities will regain their "sense" after reading this. He technically comitted murder on top of that. I know it is a fish, but what is murder? Well according to the dictionary it is; "intentionally killing another human being", But my definition goes further than that.
My opinion, stupidity at it's finest.
Call me heartless but I really think he didn't deserve that.
Firstly, people eat live sea food all the time. Swallowing live octopuses is apparently a delicacy. So i don't understand why this man is being given such a hard time for swallowing a tiny fish?
They always have to make a mountain out of a molehill.
Secondly, he's paid for it so he's free to do WHATEVER. He hasn't committed any severe crime by swallowing a FISH.
It's like getting arrested for having KFC.
See how ridiculous that sounds?
Also, i don't see why half these people are addressing to the situation as 'preposterous' or 'barbaric' ?
I'd understand if it was something as chronic as abusing a little puppy, but i don't see what's so savage about eating fish? It's what YOU probably had for dinner.
Gee..
Firstly: those police-men have no lives.
Anyway, back to the point. I think it's funny how worked up everyone's getting over calling it 'atrocious' and 'savage' when it's actually quite mild compared to the brutal cruelty that other animals face. Sure, what he did was pretty sick but is it something worth getting arrested for?
Everyday fishermen catch fish which are later sold on to consumers who eventually eat the fish. I'd say what this guy did was just jump the line.
I'm not trying to defend what he did because yes, it was extremely foolish, but not worth all this drama about his act being abominable 8-)
Ending an animal's life before it is eaten is considered a norm; but not in all cultures. As people before me have mentioned, animals in countries like China (for instance) have endured harsher brutality. But do you see Chinese vendors being arrested?
On top of it all, the guy OWNED the fish. To sum it all up, no, I don't think he should have been arrested.
I don't think the man should have been arrested because at the end of the day, he payed for it. The fish belongs to him so doesnt he have the right to do with it as he wishes?
The same thing happens in restaurants where animals are kept in tanks that eventually end up on customer’s plates. Why aren’t those people arrested? Is it because its done in a more civilized manner? Seems hypocritical to me.
In my wildest dreams, I cannot imagine why a person would commit such an act but I think being arrested for something as harmless as that is uncalled for.
Okaay, ummmmmm, I'm am dumbfounded by this question...... [hahahhahahahah, ARRESTED, bwhahahhaha]
Technically, The guy bought the fish and ate it. What's so wrong in that??. I mean, why on earth would this guy be punished for doing something we ALL do!???
Wow.
A lot of commentators here seem to think that being a carnivore, or even a pescatarian is a CRIME.
Well, open your eyes folks! It's one of those cycles of life, for animals to prey on other animals. Seeing as the man was drunk, and seeing as our animalistic instincts do force us to do uncivilised things :P, it's completely understandable that he felt the need to eat a fish that he rightly BOUGHT regardless of whether it was a 'pet' or not.
I mean come on, how is it heartless to eat a fish alive when they're being slaughtered all over the world and eaten anyway? Disgusting, maybe; but heartless, I don't think so.
The only reasons for his arrest could have been the fact that he ate it IN the shop(but even that, in my opinion, is understandable seeing as he owned the fish once paid for), and the fact that it was posted on the internet. That's quite unintelligent, but doubtful to act as a reason for arrest.
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I find this quite funny :P
I agree with everyone that swallowing a goldfish in public and then posting a video of it on social networks is a completely foolish thing to do. Yet, I do not think that it was worthy of being arrested for. Yes, the man should have been punished to inform others how silly it is to do such things, but not arrested.
And if they think that eating a live goldfish in the pet shop is something to be arrested for, then it only makes sense that all non vegetarians should be arrested too.
Aisha Bashir
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Ok weird.....lol whyy would any normal person do that in public? however i think he shouldn't be arrested..firstly it's the same thing when we go to a resturant order fish...secondly he did buy it so he can do whatever he wants with it.....people do eat they own animals for example chinese can eat their dogs and cats so whats the harm in eatting a tiny little goldfish ?
fish is fish doesn't matter what kind of fish...it's just waste of time arresting a man for a minor incident when there are more serious crime commited around the world.
Sarisha, in answer to your question : he was drunk, so that explains the random swallowing of a fish in the middle of a pet shop. :)
Technically, it's his fish; he paid for it and so owns it. I think it was quite natural for the pet shop owner to call the the police and have the man questioned (I mean personally I'd freak out if someone ate a live fish right in front of me). I think what makes it objectionable is that he posted it on Facebook for entertainment. But really, not something to be arrested for.
Well it is in some sense wrong, but not to the point where the person should be arrested and who knows? Maybe even fined £20,000?
A pet store is a place where the owner sells 'domesticated animals'. So when you buy an animal at a pet store you are expected to take care of it and not just eat it on the spot for your personal amusement. Animals are not supposed to live in bowls, cages or even just wonder about the house. We however, have domesticated them and taught animals such as cats to live indoors, use the litter box and so on.
So I believe we have a responsibility to take care of them and not have shots of them! (Even though I’m not that bothered about the fish). In China they buy dogs at markets and the buyer and seller have a mutual understanding that the dog IS going to be eaten. So in a 'legal' sense I can see why they arrested the guy. Personally, I don’t think he should have been arrested but instead, simply given a verbal warning and been banned from the store in which he committed the incident.
LoL Charlie ... he could just start eating fish in other pet stores ... :P
Vlad, i don't think this guy is a serial fish eater =P
He was just a waster who thought it would be funny ^_^
It is cruel and inhumane, and it is definitely disgusting that he showed pride in doing it by posting it on a social networking site to be seen by the public.
We have domesticated these animals, kept them, tamed them against their will and made them dependent on their human owners. Therefore, it is our responsibility to take care of them, and make sure they aren't mishandled or maltreated.
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However, we (except for the vegetarians of course) eat fish, chicken, beef, even rabbits, insects and frogs. What makes this goldfish so special? Why is it okay to eat cows and chickens, but unusual and 'barbaric' to eat goldfish and cats? Is it because they're 'cute'?
He bought the fish.
It's his.
He had the right to do whatever he wanted with it.
No, he wasn't arrested for eating the so-called fish (RIP), rather, he was arrested for his outrageous behavior that doesn't conform to what society deems as 'right'.
As Yoan mentioned, lobsters are cooked alive in restaurants, yet somehow, nobody's complaining due to it having a 'classier' and more sophisticated feel to it.
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I wish I had the will to stop eating meat, but sadly I am a weak human being who needs her protein and refuses to adhere to tofu and nuts to obtain it. :(
P.S.It's not just the Chinese who eat dogs and cats. The Koreans do it too, and other Asian countries have quite cruel delicacies as well. : Japan(ikizukuri), Korea (baby mice wine..err yes, BABY MICE wine), Philippines (Balut), etc.
And no, it's not just Asia as well.
What about the French(what they do to the goose/duck for Foie Gras is just horrible.. and look up Ortolan too), the Swiss (horse meat used in Fondue Bourguignonne),Icelandics (puffin hearts..Puffins are eaten by breaking their necks, skinning them and then eating the fresh heart raw.),the British (Veal.... http://www.britishmeat.com/veal.html etc?)
Wow, humans will eat ANYTHING, depending on what is available. What is deemed acceptable depends on the cultures and the availability of 'food'.
p.p.s. Not all chinese people eat dogs/cats 8-) Just saying :p
And I don't mean to sound like a vocab nazi, but we shouldn't use the word 'cannibal' to depict this man, since he is NOT a fish.
Cannibalism only applies when an animal/a person eats its own kind. :p
Haha! That's disgusting!
My answer would be no, I don't think he should be arrested. I'm not for animal cruelty and all that, but we eat fish all the time; cooked and raw. Heck, there have been cases when people eat live fish too.
I don't think this man should be arrested, however I think there should be a ban against eating live fish.
OH MY GOD! I cant believe they arrested this guy just because he ate a goldfish. Why are they making such a big deal out of it? Its just a goldfish, that has a 2 second memory.
And technically he bought the goldfish, so he has the right to do what he wants with it. And if people are allowed to eat fish, how is this a crime?
I personally think the man should be arrested, for the fact that it was still alive when he ate it. Yes people eat beef and lamb but it's not the same because the gold fish is still alive. is this real?
The question states whether a man should be arrested for eating a goldfish or not...I would say no because then you would have to arrest all those people who feast on 'exotic' animals like turtles, whales, sharks and many more. Goldfishes are the least of anyone's worries. They are not getting extinct anytime soom! So let the guy enjoy his goldfish!
Well, was it wrong? Of course. But I don't think he should have been arrested. I second Yoan's comment, It was probably the way that he did it that shocked the people and therefore got arrested.
I just read the full story, quite disgusting actually :p Or random more like.
Though, I keep wondering why he'd say that he was drunk at the time and that he's actually an animal lover, but then still keep it lying on the internet? Wouldn't you be embarrassed and delete it? :s
oh, and I found the video on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTpahuqyYmM
Fish is a Fish.We all eat them,however swallowing it alive? sounds like a slow and painful death which i say goes under animal cruelty!
Well firstly I would like to point out that i find this kind of funny.
Anyways, to the point. Simply, no he should not be arrested as he bought the fish so really he can do what he wants as it is out of the pet stores hands.
Would it make it less horrible if he went home then swallowed it? In the end he still swallowed it either way.
We eat fish all the time, what makes it any different?
Actually we are worse because we go to a restaurant, pick out the lobster we want and they boil it to death and you can hear it crying. THATS EVIL, but we still do it.
I think that he souldnt have been arested for it.
at the end of the day he paid for it, so its his property. Why should we care for what he does with it?
would I eat a fish thats still alive? nope as it seems imorral. yet its his life and his choice with what he does
Being a vegetarian, of course. However there is no Vegetarian Police, so is there much that can be done? It is disgusting. Such an act can only be done by an ignorant man.
The fish, a helpless, breathing Goldfish. What is the poor thing to do.
In hinduism, sometimes it is believed that if you do something bad in your present life then in your next life you will be turned into an animal.
The next thing you know is "Man is Goldfish".
Looking at it from a humanitarian point of view, I feel that the man should be put behind bars due to his atrocious and cruel act of swallowing the fish. Besides it wasn’t the edible kind of fish it was more like an ornament fish.
However, the guy technically owns the fish which indicates that its his own "property". And once a property is sold he can do what he feels like with it :- be it keeping it alive or swalling it.
Haha! Poor fish, oh well anyways, unlike most people here I disagree that if he bought it then he can do what he wants with it, I mean if a person bought a puppy and beat it up or something people would think differently. But yes I do agree with the fact that he shoudln't have been arrested, the police should have more important things to do then arrest such people. Maybe a few community hours would have been better?
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Honestly, the man shouldn't have been arrested but taken straight to a shrink.
We can't say it's a brutal act that would be a little hypocritical as some of us eat animals (I don't but I eat seafood.) but we don't call ourselves 'barbaric' because of this.
This man clearly needs help, taking him to jail won't help him at all, he needs psychiatric help.
I actually agree with Shennin on this...
Okay, so he ate a fish. But did they really have to raid his home and arrest him. Alot of people commit so many wrong doings these days, and alot of it go unknown. I find it silly that the police waste time on petty crimes or pranks like this.
People eat all sorts of meat these days! And it isn't just cows, and lambs anymore. It's crocodiles, snakes, and even rabbits! Is that not animal cruelty?
If the police go around arresting people for things like things, then they'll need a hell of a bigger jail.. :P
The only thing that he did wrong was swallowing the fish alive, and for posting it on facebook (Pathetic, really. He's 30. Someone needs to act his AGE and not his SHOW SIZE :P), and for that, they could've fined him *not heavily* and let him off with a warning.
...But he could face a £20,000 fine or six months in jail for this? Ridiculous.
"Swallowing a fish", animal cruelty?? I don't think so! Don't you think, captivating an animal and keeping it away from its natural habitat, or from where it belongs cruel? As many have said, we eat all sorts of meat everyday(except for the vegans), so why should fish be an exception!
Definitely, the man needs to seek medical help. Behavior of the grown man was really immature and quite disturbing. But that does not prove the man should be fined £20,000 for eating a fish thats worth £1.99. And I also believe that the police are not going to spend thousands of pounds investigating on the prank played by a pathetic 30 year old! :)
A long time ago, Moza said... "I find it cannibalic [sic]. It's not JUST a fish. it breaths, hunts for food, reproduces and has a life just like us."
Um, If eating another living, breathing, reproducing thing is cannibalistic, then Vegetarians and Vegans are cannibals as well. Plants live, breath, gather nutrients, grow, communicate, and reproduce. So clearly, the word cannibal was not used correctly.
I would be disgusted to witness the "man eats goldfish!" I am also disgusted by facial piercings, especially so for piercings of the nose. I don't think either eating live fish nor body piercings are any cause for arrest.
The shop keeper had the right to toss the bloke out and if the bloke refused to vacate the pet shop, then he might be arrested for trespass. I'd be inclined to that conclusion.
Cheers!
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