If someone showed you this image and said it was the map of the world, would you agree or disagree? Give reasons why or why not.Click on the image to enlarge, if you wish; but it's not relevant.
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Well, I would agree that it IS a map of the world, but it is presented wrong; I mean, when we ask to see a map, we expect it to be shown the right way around, not upside down.
If someone gave this to me, even after turning it around, I would presume it to be some sort of printing error, since the names of countries are written upside down too.
well, I would agree. Because it still remains a map. So what if it was turned upside down? One could always turn it to its correct position and study it. I would still say that it is a world map.
Just to respond to Mehvash, the map is not a printing error. It has been deliberately printed this way. Why? What do we learn? You might want to check with a Geography teacher or someone from Australia or New Zealand and hear what they have to say :)
I might not be able to say whether it is the World map or not. Drawing a World Map is not an easy job and only people who perfect at Geography might be able to draw it. How would I know who drew that map? It should have some kind of international certification so that not only Me, but every one who sees it will agree that it is the World Map. Some things which We dont know, We learn from others, and if a Geography Teacher told Me that was the World Map, I would have to believe him/her as he/she has learnt more in that field. I guess, it works on trust. But if that person showed Me this image, I might not agree with him, as if I was in Dubai and I had to go to India I would go Eastwards, but according to the map I would have to go to the west. Besides, I would say that the map is upside down and is incorrect. So I would disagree with him, but not strongly.
...Well, generally, the North Pole goes up and the South Pole goes down. If this map was real, I'd kind of be like "wait, so have the poles reversed?"
Unless the poles had reversed, I would definitely disagree with the person. I mean, sure, the countries are all there but they're not..right.
Oh, and is it just me, or does Russia look curved in this?
(excuse my ramblings, it's 3am.)
Let's imagine the map is quite accurate in all details except that everything in the "North" is now "South" and vice versa; and everything in the "East" is now "West" and vice versa.
Would it be an accurate representation of the world? (The answer is very simple, but you need a mind-shift.)
Clue: Picture the earth from space.
We have a North Hemisphere bias. A related question which will help you understand the topic is "when does the southern hemisphere experience winter?"
Neiha, the continents looked curved or warped because we are trying to represent a 3-dimensional globe on a 2-dimensional flat surface.
Another clue: consider the map of the world on the United Nations flag - what's that all about?
at first, i agreed that this was the map of the world, cause a map's a map either way you look at it.
but then i thought of it in a different aspect. say for example, if i just took a map of springs 9 and looked at it upside down, id have all my directions wrong. if i were to follow it to reach my destination, id land up getting somewhere else.
so when you look at this map, it IS wrong! because australia is not at the top of the world - it's at the bottom. the north pole is up and the south pole is down.
...!! The UN thing caught my interest!
I see what you mean. I've spent ages and ages just staring at it, trying to make sense of it. Just because you take one thing as the center of the world does NOT make it wrong. It's still the world! In the UN logo, North America is taken as the center, if I recall correctly. But doesn't NOT make it the world.
...in conclusion, sure. Why not? It's the world, isn't it? All the continents and countries are there, right?
Not sure if I've still understood what you mean though, sir.
..........wait.
"when does the southern hemisphere experience winter?"
...when it isn't exposed to the sun, right? It depends on which hemisphere is more exposed to the sun. The one that's less exposed experiences winter. So, it the moment, it's summer in the southern hemisphere.
I'm not exactly sure what that might have to do with the topic as yet, though...
I can give you the answer but that would defeat the purpose of this post. Suffice it to say for now that in some Southern hemisphere countries the map I posted is considered accurate. Why? How? You tell me.
(Neiha, you're right, it's summer right now in the southern hemisphere - How? Why?)
UN flag clue: no country is in the centre. So from what perspective are we viewing the map of the world in that flag?
...From space?
Is it because the map of the world depends on which perspective you're seeing it from?
Neiha, I see you're racking your brain over this. But yes, you're getting there - perspective is crucial.
...I was reading through all this and I saw how biased we were to the Northern Hemisphere because we live in the North. That's how we'd look at a map. For someone who lives in the South, their eyes would automatically be drawn to the lower part of the map. I guess it all really does depend on where you're from. A person from Australia or New Zealand would shrug their shoulders and agree because THEY are biased to their own side of the world, just like we are with ours. The idea of the North being the South is alien to us.
Am I thinking the right way, sir?
The Southern hemisphere expierences winter when the Northern hemisphere is facing the sun. Why? Because the Earth rests on its axis which is tilted, so when one side is exposed to the Sun it faces summer while the other faces winter. And about the UN flag - The emblem's design is described as:
A map of the world representing an azimuthal equidistant projection centred on the North Pole, inscribed in a wreath consisting of crossed conventionalised branches of the olive tree; [...] The projection of the Map extends 40° South Latitude, and includes four concentric circles.
The map is being looked at from the top of the North pole.
I think it is something to do with the following. The Earth is considered to be in a circular shape. So if you take a circle, and draw a diameter in it, there will be two semicircles then. The people in the Northern hemisphere live on one side of the diameter and the people in the Southern hemisphere live on the other. This map will work in Southern countries because the Earth only rotates and revolves West to East and never from North to South. Is that the answer?
Sonal:
A map of the world representing an azimuthal equidistant projection centred on the North Pole, inscribed in a wreath consisting of crossed conventionalised branches of the olive tree; [...] The projection of the Map extends 40° South Latitude, and includes four concentric circles.
Sonal, if you're going to copy and paste from the Net I'd suggest you try to paraphrase it in your own words. (The same holds for everyone for any post.)
But well done for trying. The UN map looks weird because it is a map of the continents as if we were looking at it from above the North Pole.
^I tried to, but I thought it would be better to get the exact words from the UN itself. I checked the meanings of a few words, I think I understood that definition by sticking those meanings together. But to explain it to someone else, I thought this definition would work better than Mine.
Seeing that Mr. Roberts has given all the clues already, this took just a little bit of time. At first I would have said that this is a printing error as well. But then I realized that it can't be so, because the names of the countries are in the right spots, and they're not inverted.
If you're out in space and looking at the Earth from an angle, right above the arctic ocean, then this is what the Earth will look like.
The map we're used to assumes that one is standing right in front of the equator and the Earth is no longer spherical. It's just a means of education I guess, to be able to calculate distances and such.
I hope I'm right..
...I just got a whole lot philosophical with my approach, didn't I? My bad |D;
^ Neiha, get philosophical - question everything - take no one's word; that's the only way to learn.
Of course it is the map of the world! All of the countries' and oceans' names are placed correctly on the map. The only thing is that it has been portrayed from an 'upside down' point of view.
I've put in the air quotes because we are accustomed to or have been educated to looking at the map of the world in one way; north is up and south is down.
(ok I hope this example comes out right :p) For example, a person in a handstand position (upside down), and next to him is a standing person (normal). Now the person in the hanstand position will be facing the feet of the standing person, this, in his point of view is the upside, although, the 'upside' that we are accustomed to is the head of the person.
So if the object of matter is viewed from a different angle that is out of the ordinary, that doesn't make it a wrong thing, because that is where critical thinking, the point of this topic, comes in!
I would agree it is a world map because it still does look like the world only it is upside down, though I wouldn't use it to get somewhere.
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I would agree. It may sound absurd that i would out right disagree, but it really has to be said that we take others 'facts' as our own.
Just because someone said 'this is the north pole, this is the south pole' doesnt mean they're right. Its down to interpretation, and almost all people go with what everyone else has said without any solid proof.
Chances are most of the images you see of the earth from outerspace arw taken when going perfectly round the equater with 'up' being towards the north pole. But really think about it, with space being this big and everything moving rojnd does ir really matter if we get things upside down? No not really.
If anything i would more agree with this map, just to try and pursuade mankind that its alright to think for yourself!
^Duwane has hit the nail on the head. The map is completely accurate. It's just that we, as Northern Hemisphere chauvinists are taught that North is up and South is down.
But imagine you were floating above the equater in space and looked down. Imagine Asia is up and Australia is down. Now turn your body upside down. Australia will be up and Asia down.
The fact is, Earth is just a small pebble floating in the infinity of space. Up and down are meaningless in space.
Click here to view an image of earth with the South Pole on top: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2007/09/earth-upside-down.jpg
And click here to view the different ways in which an effective map can be drawn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_projection
It's all a matter of perspective.
I would agree, a map is a map no matter what direction you hold it in. I mean we don't know for sure what direction the world is facing in, yes there is the scientific way, but science always has the possibility of being wrong.
Haha! Thought I had it right.
My, how the human race conforms to general beliefs.
I would say "YES" but I would question the presenter's display and correct him/her.
Because it is a FLAWLESS world map; help up and displayed by a moron! =P
So the Map will work in the Southern Hemisphere because people live on either sides of the Earths diameter. Picture The Earth and the equator and then picture a person standing on the equator then turn the Earth upside down and do the same. Now the first persons Head is facing downwards and for him it is his top so, the Southern Hemisphere for him will be on the top. But for the person above the equator the Northern Hemisphere is the top one. Thats why this map works only in the Sourthern Hemishpere right?
I would agree, because it just seems like the map is presented upside-down. I do see that there is a piece of Russia on the bottom right-hand corner and from what I've learnt Russia isn' meant to be there (if you look at the map the right way round).
I guess it is still a map, and I feel that nothing can prove if a map is completely geographically correct. Countries are masses of land which are named what the population desires and this map could be a representation of what a particular population wants it to be.
I think this map would make more sense if we folded it into a circle! That would explain Russia being on the bottom right-hand corner!
Yes I agree.
But I shall explain why with another example.
If you go ask someone in japan what is the name of this street they shall be confused
(not because your speaking in another language , lets assume they understood what you said)
but because they have a far different address system ours, they do not name there streets instead they name their blocks which would be considered wierd here, they also number their houses differently , we have our ones in a order from 1 to what ever they have it in order to which house was built first in which block.
either way they have a address but it's just a diffrent way of showing or doing it.
I would disagree, simply because I am very irrational, and because Philosophy plays many parts in this. True, it might be the way the world looks like (notice I said might), but it needs to be experienced to be believed, it is just one of those things that are a one in a million chance of knowing and experiencing.
Mainly, this mere image cannot explain what occurs on Earth, it cannot define our complete existence, nor can it define itself, so it is, maybe, not wrong, but definately incomplete, since it does not give out enough information, especially if it was seen for the very first time.
^Mo: "this mere image cannot explain what occurs on Earth"
Disagreeing with Mo, the map of the world is used by fighter pilots, sailors, Global Positioning Satellites, Spy satellites, Google Earth, geologists, air traffic contol, and a host of other disciplines. The map explains exactly, to within a few centimetres, the land mass on earth. Not everything is about Philosophy. This is a scientific question.
This is not a "mere image." It is a phenomenally accurate representation of the continents and oceans. The question is whether viewing it upside down makes it inaccurate. And scientifically, the answer is no.
To be honest, I prefer to read rational and sensible comments, instead of - as Mo describes his own comment - "irrational" comments.
Umm…I’d agree with Nadine..this is a map of the earth but from a different angle.
I would say Yes it is the map of the world its just that the way its presented is in a different angle.
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