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Saturday, September 26, 2009

Thunks - 4


A Thunk is a beguilingly simple-looking question about everyday things that stops you in your tracks and helps you start to look at the world in a whole new light.


Thunk 4:


Are humans essentially a peaceful species at heart?


53 comments:

Ash said...

Each human being is different from the other. Some humans may be very peaceful at heart - hating voilence, being kind and helpful to everyone. A very good example for this would be Mahatma Ghandi.
On the contrary we can also find some humans who are trully violent and see voilence as the only way to resolve fights and so on.
If we compare humans to animals like wolf however, all of us would be considered as peaceful as we don't usually involve in animal like fights and are much peaceful at heart.
Therefore, it depends on who we are comparing ourselves to which will tell whether we are peaceful or not.

Ishi_S said...

We can never generalize human behaviour. Everyone is different from each other. There will be some people who believe violence is the best solution and others who will oppose. But I feel that majority of humans value peace. And can we not say that certain wars are waged for peace? Doesn't that mean that the people participating in those wars are peaceful at heart? In short, you can never really say a general statement about such a diverse specie.

Mo Nour El Din said...

We are a type of animal, mammals infact. When we fight, it is a hundred times worse than how other animals fight, for we use weapons that cause instant death.

Of course you can't generalise human behaviour, but you can predict it. The brain is the control room. The heart is the generator. What goes in your brain, will, immediately, spread throughout your body, in a flurry of messages.

Example: before you fight, you get this gut feeling, a mixture of frightness and anger, and when you are in a bad mood, you trigger the inner part of humans, the psycho part, the one that you dont realise what you are doing, almost like a reflex action, but completely hostile. When people tell you they like to fight, its never true, infact, they just release this inner action alot faster. This inner psycho-ness, nearly everyone has experienced it at least once, happens when your mind eradicates your thoughts, when you feel as if you are watching yourself from far, and you can do nearly anything in this state, usually triggered before a fight when a rush of adrenalin combines with the fear and anger, and you erupt.

So, are humans essentially a peaceful species at heart?

By heart, i will assume from the inner depths of one's feelings. Everyone is different, that is true, but, we have things in common. One of them, are feelings. I believe, feelings are supposed to cope with the mood of your mind, so if you get slapped by someone, anger flares up, you feel it, so you know, immediately, what is coursing through your brain. Sometimes, such as in a fight, you actually overcome your feelings, and your brain acts without you being aware of it. It is scary when you lose control of what you are doing, people can be crying from the inside, and they can be punching someone from the outside, over and over. It is the most scariest thing we can encounter, ourselves.

Again, are humans essentially a peaceful species at heart? - No.

For us to even have the ability to be able to fight, to be able to extinguish someone else's burning life, we must have something connected to it. Complete happiness can never exist, we know that, but can complete anger exist? Can you live your entire life angry? If this is true, then we are not peaceful at heart.

I do not believe we are. When we see a fight, on TV, we get filled with adrenalin, we feel like we want to hit someone. When we watch it in reality, we feel their anger, we can actually FEEL, with our hearts and minds, the anger and pressure amongst the people in combat. Isn't that wierd? We can actually feel people's anger when they fight, and, some of us build it by provoking the fight, for some of us get adrenalised, but, others resist it, and try to decrease the anger, by breaking up the fight, but, we still want to watch what is going to happen.

This sort of love for fights has to mean something. And there is proof that we are not peaceful. Look outside. Look at the TV. Read the news. Killing is everywhere, but, where is happiness? There are more violent things going on, than happy ones, in the world, im 100% sure of that. If we are murderous today, more than anything else, how can we be peaceful at heart? The cruelty of today is too much to comprehend, so imagine the violence?

Yet, again, we are not all the same, but, if you count the things that we have in common, it is, and will be, violence at the top.

The people who participate for peace, are just doing it for a different purpose, example, companies/businesses want to look good, so they say some lies about peace and etc..., and they get the news running right up to them, they get their publicity announced, and, eventually, they get their profits to rise. People who participate in peace, are always doing it for their benefit, or for someone else's.

You cannot answer this question 100% though, no thunk can, but i answer this with a 99% no. The 1% is that small, resistant spark we have inside us, trying to immune us from anger, and from going on rampages.

Kris_BG said...

I would really like to say that I believe that humans are a peaceful species, but there’s just too much evidence pointing otherwise. However, I do believe that humans, no exceptions to whomever, are essentially selfish.

Every little action is propelled by our desire to gain something, whether it’s materialistic or spiritual. Every person is peaceful until something that he wants, even if it’s an unconscious desire, makes him do something which will strip him of the noble status of a peaceful human being.

But, again the question is just one of those that can’t be answered with a 100% conviction.

Unknown said...

Well. Humans are the most territorial and adaptive animals so far known.We will fight to the death to keep our home and insantly deal with a intruder within our territory. We always adapt to the situation physically and mentally.

So all in all we will never generalise humans nature. Since it's never constant ,it always changing and always showing a near overwhelming amount of variety.

(But if you really need something to blame for all the violence, just point at the goverment)

Nikol said...

No I dont think so, Humans are generally selfish creatures, If it wasn't for humans, Global Warming wouldn't exist, No one would be bludgeoning seals for the hell of it. Polar Bears wouldn't be endangered species. And thats just a few of the many reasons how Humans can be selfish. Humans are willing to go to war for incredibly stupid reasons, when they can just talk about the problem and solve it, instead they choose to shoot each other.

So, No. They are selfish creatures and to be honest I dont think humans can put something else's interest before theirs, after all, it's instinct.


-Nikol :)

Unknown said...

Each individual is different from the other. Being peaceful at heart is the result of many elements put together. One's state of well being is influenced by the social environment one belongs to; the people one spends time and interacts with and one's general rapport with oneself. We can not utilise such a generalised statement for the whole human race, as we all come from different backgrounds and are all part of diverse societies, where our thought processes, values and beliefs differ. As Russell Peters comically put forward: while the western father asked you to go up to your room as punishment for back answering, the Indian father 'hurt someone real bad'! :P

Mehvash:] said...

I always prefer to consider the Yin and Yang theory; every good person has a little bit of 'bad' in them, every bad person has a little bit of 'good-ness' or purity in them.
Look around you, observe, and you'll see that us humans are vile creatures, if I may say so. Greed is part of our nature, telling lies is human instinct.
Some of the terrorists, thieves, rapists [to name a few] claim to have been 'influenced' to commit such crimes, but I personally believe that nothing, or no-one, can force you to perform regretful actions. Yet inside these ill-doers, I believe with all my heart that they do consist of some purity, a trivial bit good-ness in them. Of course, it's unforgivable to commit such horrible crimes, but sooner or later they realize their mistake, accept their punishments, and try to earn back their respect from the society.
For those offenders who never express their 'good-side', well they are the exceptions to this theory.
It works the other way too- I mean, please don't tell me Mahatma Ghandi has never told a lie, or committed an un-worthy action.
A vast majority of this human species try their best to promote 'World Peace'. But it's all hyprocricy, I say, because it does no good. You still see all this violence around you, death-tolls rising. The 'good-ness' level in humans are just decreasing, and our maliciousness is intensifying.

-Mehvash Khan, 10 G1.

Jurgienne said...

All humans are animals, therefore, deep down, we all adhere to animalistic instincts. When the worst comes, we will kill, eat, hunt, and destroy with the main purpose of survival.

Fortunately, since we ARE a step above animals (though it's not much, mind you), we try our best / are trained to follow rules and order. We conform and try to have a certain 'peace', taming the animals within.

Though when threatened, we all seem to forget the rules, whether it's your b*tchy side lashing out during a catfight, or cannibalism during desperate times.

Mehvash:] said...

Sorry, one more point I forgot to include:
Us humans are never satisfied. Always, we yearn for more. Even after obtaining whatever we desired, we will keep on asking for more, because, our wants are un-limited. We take things for granted, and most of us do not appreciate what we have. Instead of thanking God for all our luxuries, we complain about wanting more.

-M.Khan 10 G1

neineisharie said...

Seconding some of the others and saying that it differs from one person to the other, but also adding that no human is purely evil. It's what we make of ourselves, it's how we're influenced, it's how we're raised.

Of course, all humans have some sort of defensive mechanism in them - if you made to punch me, I'd try and block or even punch back. Sometimes it gets way too out of hand, and sometimes it ends up with the two opponents laughing over glasses of lemonade.

So, yeah, it does all depend on the environment surrounding a particular person. But no one is solely evil. Evil is not something you're born with, it's something you grow into - but there's always a speck of hope, there's always some heart left in a person that you can appeal to.

It's just a challenge to find that speck.

But the hope is always there.

Unless you're a sociopath in a Dean Koontz novel in which case you need to be confined to isolation your whole life. But that's just me.

Tannya D said...

Each human has his/her own individuality. There are some that long for world peace, some that want to go on with violence, and some that just "can't be bothered". However, according to me and what I've seen so far, all humans have a certain greed deep down, certain need to keep themselves self satisfied - and this could mean they would even go to the extents of killing another being for it. I'm not suggesting that all humans are murderers, no, but for the mere feeling of self satisfaction,we would do ANYTHING. We are, after all, animals. We tend to be QUITE wild, and if it wasnt for our needs (more like, wants), the world wouldnt be where it is, with all the Global Warming and enviromental issues.
:P
Tannya Jajal
10g2

Leah Simon said...

I would agree with Neiha and say that each person is how they are depending on the way they are brought up and influenced.
Psychologically, in every person there is something known as SUPER EGO, ID and EGO. Your super ego is your moral side (more commonly known as concience) which is formed in you by your life's experinces at home, school, etc. Id is the selfish side to you again formed by your parents, friends, teachers, etc. And ego is the decision maker that favours whichever side is greater in you. So if your life experiences have resulted in a greater super ego then you would tend to lead a moral and peaceful life. But if the id is greater, then it is but natural that you would be, in common tongue, bad.

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Unknown said...

It all depends on each person now whether their peaceful at heart or violent. Everyone thinks and knows that they should be a peaceful species but violence is always surrounding us. We have crime rates increasing and as we head into the future it doesnt seem to be decreasing. However there are a few people who value peace and they make sure violence is eradicated

Nadine said...

I'm a believer that we are peaceful species at heart. People like Hitler though startle me, but nevertheless there's an excepotion to every theory.

I do agree that you are generallly judged using today's standards as to whethere you're peaceful or evil accoeding to your actions, which are obviously a result of your upbringing and your life experiences. No one forces anyone to commit a vile act: kill, rape, or torture. But life can do that to you.

If I now say that it's because of the wars and killings going on in this world that we see such evil characters today, I'm sure so many wil reply by saying that, "Well PEOOPLE were the ones who initiated war", hence thinking they proved their point. Allow me to say we need to dig a bit deeper than that. What made people initiate war in the first place? We need to go back to the point of origin.
As someone mentioned earlier, we're born with this defence mechanism. To me, it all dates back to insecurity as well. We are insecure. Try as we might to prove otherwise, we shall fail.

So, people don't go around killing for the sake of some twisted pleasure it gives them (although it does give them a sense of power but that's no luxury, it's ambition), they do it because they are afraid that one of those days these people they're oppressing could outnumber them, or progress and oppress them in turn.

Had we been sensible creatures, who did a little more thinking than irrational sudden behaviour such as our current, I think things could've been slightly different. But we tend to be blinded by our emotions and insecurities - be they anger, fear or even happiness.

I don't think that there is "bad in every good human being". I think we're all naturally good. We just tend to keep our guard up so high, we'd do anything to make sure no one destroys this fictional feeling of security that makes us sleep at night.

EliqaShaza said...

Well,first off i would like to say that there are many different kinds of humans out there. Some like Hitler, are very violent. In the other hand there are many out there that are peaceful at heart.

In my opinion, even the most violent man has a soft spot. Whether its for his children, his wife, his parents or anyone else for that matter. We as humans carry a weapon. Most of us use it to inflict pain. But, i feel that no matter how much pain you cause. At the end of the day. There will always be a touch of kindness and peace in all out hearts :)

x

Yusra Shah said...
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Yusra Shah said...

I think humans are peaceful species essentially but a person is highly affected by the kind of environment and the people around them, and due to this constant influence, a person changes for the better or for the worst.

....Yusra Shah 10g1.....

Mona. said...

A question like this has no proper answer because human beings are very different from each other.
A lot of things affect us; our surroundings, how we were brought up and also where we were brought up.
We are easily influenced, easily manipulated and our thoughts change with age and with the experiences that we live through everyday.
I don’t think we can say humans are peaceful in nature because we all have that angry side to us.
Some of us hurt others without thinking while others choose to let it go. Ones who choose to let it go aren’t necessarily peaceful, they might hold grudges or bottle up all their feelings.
Although, violence gives people satisfaction because it gives them the power to humiliate and degrade other human beings which in turn makes them assume they’re superior to all others.

Aliza said...

No. I dont think so because almost everyone takes his possessions, his status, etc. for granted. And that includes me. We want more and always will keep wanting more. We never stop. When we acquire the desired object, for example, we might like it for sometime, but then soon get bored of it. We next want the new best thing in town. Or simply more of the thing. More power, more fame, more money.......
In brief, we are restless. We, as humans. So how can we be peaceful at heart? It is a different thing, though, that we want more of it because of the wants created by society. But it still comes to this theory that humans are restless by nature.

Duwane.A said...

I guess everyone would like to believe that we're a peacefull race. But that just isnt the way it is. We may start out to be very peacefull, but greed in a society causes alot of anger, jealousy and competition - And we have alot of greed.
We were all born with a sense of forgiveness and peace, but looking at the past hundred years we're now more willing to put all that aside. Albeit there are some occaisons where we see those inner feelings rise above this anger and hate... But it doesnt seem to happen often.
Theres no way that you can answer a question so general, but the dominant answer is No.

Batul Bhatri said...

I personally believe humans are peaceful at heart, its just that sometimes people are manipulated and are driven to do something wrong, mean or just plain old evil!
Sometimes humans are brought up in violent environments or have had a disturbed past.

wayne_!!O said...

power,authority,supremacy, influence.

no matter what synonym we may use
all of us are after the same thing ..we may not know this but we all crave this at a subconscious level

we humans crave these things to a point that we are willing to sacrifice innocent lives ,money and resources in order to attain some level of power . but this is where greed kicks in , and we crave even more power to the point that we wage wars and compromise thousands of innocent lives

weather its a small child pulling his sisters hair and laughing hysterically at her anguish .or nations waging nuclear wars . we all gain a twisted pleasure from knowing that we have power over a weaker body

violence is excersized in all sorts of places , ranging from a school environment to nations on a global scale

NO MATTER WHAT THE CASE , HUMANS ARE VIOLENT .AND ALWAYS WILL BE .
but its the level of violence in humans which have a world of difference.

wayne11b1

Payam H.D said...

Utopia does not exist. We live in a world divided. Every human is both capable of love or extreme violence. It's like we were programmed with these two since birth. Some may believe we are peaceful at heart, some might even look and act peaceful, but you should never judge a book by its cover. Inside this 'peaceful' individual is an agony consuming, never ending war between peace and violence. One may prevail, but who knows for how long, when the other is just waiting for the opportuned moment to strike and dominate. A human is born with instincts, reflexes and behaviour equivalent to that of an animal. Violence is in our nature. Take a monk who has never hurt, let alone inflicted any sort of damage onto another living being and throw him into a cage with another human who could be a peacemaker. Don't give them any food. What do you think they would do?

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Unknown said...

Yes, I definately believe humans are peacful at heart.
Alot of people who would be against this statement would usually bring up the example of Adolf Hitler, but no matter how violent a person will be in different situations, there is always something peaceful about that very same person.
Take this for example, extracted from a biography of Hitler: "he had an ambition to become an artist"... now, would you associate artistry with violence?
There are many ways to prove all our inner peace but the one that comes to my mind quickest is to say that any criminal has a family he loves and vice versa.
Easily, picture this: A prison. I accept that it holds that dreary and threatening atmosphere, but with a visiting room full of unforgotten wives and children and parents and brothers and sisters, it is hard to imagine there is no love and peace in all of us.
Ask yourself... would we, as a generation and civilization, have gotten this far if we were all always violent?

Sonal.Vohra said...
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Sonal.Vohra said...

I think that Humans are peaceful at Heart but, it is revenge or greed that makes one violent.This case does not apply for each and every Human, I think.For example, if a country has a fight with another country over a piece of land, they first talk to each other and give warnings, like 'If you dont let Me rule this area I will..' and then become violent when disagreements arise.They dont just go killing each others citizens.Maybe the two countries are being violent so that they can maitain peace in their own way by ruling that piece of land, laying rules to be followed for a peaceful time for all.But they are fighting because their rules dont match each others.But it also depends from person to person personally, whether they are short-tempered,arrogant or peaceful.
I think it is easier to pin-point at peaceful people than to give an opinion on a whole.

asima...=D said...

I really believe that every person is peaceful and innocent at heart its just how they are moulded, their upbringing, their surroundings that turn them into violent individuals.
Just look at doctors, fire fighters, nurses, animal care centres,(the list can go on) they all look to help others. Yes
I agree that in the past humans are known to have committed disgusting acts but in the same breath I can say that there are only a hand full of people who are genuinely violent and the vast majority are peaceful.

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Unknown said...

Well, as I voiced my opinions in class today, I definetely beleive that human's are not peacefull species at heart. Well, Sonal Vohra mentioned earlier that Human's become violent only when faced with revenge or greed. But aren't these two feelings in themselves violent. I mean if a person feels that he needs to take revenge, isn't it violent?? Humans are not peacefull species at heart. Yes, they are able to control the way through wihhc they vent their anger, but that doesnt simply mean they are peacefull at heart. IF human;s really were peacefull species, why would we have such things as LAWS. We could all live together without any one looking over us if we were actually peaceful. And again Sonal Vohra mentioned about the warning a country gets before its invaded. But again, isn't that greed that is shown. Humans are species who are never satsified. THey all ways want more. And it is this charcteristic that I beleive makes humans violent. Therefore I firmly beleive that humans arent peaceful species at heart, but are able to live together peacefull provided certain circumstances are available.

Unknown said...

absolutely not! how can humans be considered peaceful at heart when all we do is create war after war? if humans were considered peaceful, we wouldn't degrade someone because of their colour. we wouldn't be selfish or self-absorbed. we wouldn't kill.
there is no justification to murder. period.

we may not all be killers, but we are ALL violent, in some way or another.

Unknown said...

till today all countries around the world speak of peace,but their steps towards reaching peace were and are through violence,wars where thousands have died.....
so i really believe that mankind is truely violent,though we may love and care for others,its are very nature to be violent......i wud remember when i used to play with babies,they used to slap or hit me and i used to act like i got hurt n fall down and they used to laugh and do it again,these are children 3 years old.What do they know of violence and war and peace,but yet they enjoy watching another getting hurt.
it is said that the most violent cartoon is the most favourite n watched cartoon,'Tom and Jerry',with each episode the director would succeed in making audiences around the world laugh,so much so that these directors have even won academy awards for certain of their episodes,these are awards are what people dream off,
but all the director did was get a cat and mouse to fight against each other and do the most violent acts anyone would ever think off
i personnaly love this cartoon and will not stop watching ot no matter what others may say......
would you????

Sonal.Vohra said...
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Sonal.Vohra said...

In reply to Sonal Sukhit:
Everyone comes with both qualities,violence and peace,but not everyone uses them.The question is whether We are peaceful 'at heart'.And Yes We are.We only become violent but at Heart We are peaceful.Even you agree to that as seen in your post..'beleive makes humans violent'.
You use the violent qualities once disagreements rise which lead to greed and revenge.Now dont say that disagreeing is being violent too.Those two are violent feelings themselves, which humans try to avoid as far as possible.And about the laws, We have it so that everyone follows the same rule and dont do what they want to because every Human tries to adjust in the best way for himself..just as the example of the war for a piece of land.

Unknown said...

Sonal Vohra:

Well I guess the fact that people have both peaceful and violent sides in themselves. Every person belongs to his/her monkeysphere. A monkeysphere is the number of people that you really care for. The maximum number of people that can be in monkeysphere is around 100. As you begin to interact with people outside your monkeysphere, you begin to vent your anger out in violent ways. Here's a good example:
You get angry at your uncle, but you dont really shout at him do you? But if you get angry at a taxi driver, you'll probably end up screaming at him? So people begin to become violent when they actually begin to interact with people outside their monkeysphere.

Here's just a bit more info about the monkeysphere for those who are interested:
The monkeysphere is associated with Dunbar's number. The Dunbar's number is the number of people you can maintain stable social relationships with. You show your emotions in a completely different manner with people within your monkeysphere and with people outside your monkeysphere. Here's another good example that the monkeysphere theory has some truth in it:
Say 15000 people died in an earthquake in Japan. And say that your brother met with an accident?
What would you be more worried about? Remember, all human lives are worth the same? Think about it?

Mr. Roberts said...

Good point Sonal S., Thanks for that!

Sonal.Vohra said...

Thats right Sonal S., I think you've understood My point.

Unknown said...

I agree with Mehvash on the yin yang thing! Lets look at one of the seven major deadly sins; Greed. This particular characteristic has given birth to Powerslaves like Hitler, Attila, Genghis etc. and then there are mild versions of greed like jealousy over a brand new phone, girlfriend etc. but can this be converted into a good thing?

The answer: YES! I like to subclassify greed into primarily jealosy, and desire. Lets focus on desire, if werent for desire to succeed, the human race would possibly devolve in intelligence. Men like Obama, Beethoven, Slash would'nt exist!It is this desire to want more out of this world, that gives most of us that will to carry on and actually BELIEVE in our dreams.

NOTE: I am not sure if the term "Powerslave" is an actual dictionary word. It is a metaphor I deciphered from a song and felt this was an appropriate place to use it, given the context.

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Unknown said...

I believe that God created each human being with a peaceful heart but it is the surroundings and the environment in which a person thrived that changes the peaceful heart into the violent or evil one.It is also true that every evil person has some good in them and every good person has some evil in them-NO ONE is PERFECT!!
Aisha Bashir
10G2

Marwan said...

Quite hard to answer,i'd say we are but then it really depends on your background life,where you come from and your diffrent experiences in life that leads you to become the human you are,peaceful or not. I mean for example,Hitler had a diffrent experience in his life with jews and the first world war that made him become a violent jewish hating person. If he grew up in a place where Jews were very kind to him and loving then i think he wouldnt have been so anti-jewish.

Marwan Harraz 10B2

Mo Nour El Din said...

Please consider the fact that our physical body, works bests, and responds to, anything aggressive, with an inner passion.

Your adrenal glands, found in your body, secrete a hormone called adrenalin. I hate Biology, but this is proof. Adrenalin is responsible for giving you the "butterflies" in your stomach. Adrenalin is responsible for providing the muscles with an excess amount of glucose, therefore more energy. Adrenalin, basically, prepares the entire body for fight/flight, and keeps you tense and ready for evasive action.

Now where is the hormone, gland, or anything physically found in the body, that has anything to do with peace? Does your heart beat faster when you want peace, or when you are secreting adrenalin, and want to beat the person infront of you?

Conclusion: Our bodies' physical construction is made for protection over protection over more protection. Yes against germs. Yes against wildlife.

And yes for the most violent acts you can ever dream of doing. We are made this way, because, religiously speaking, there will be war when our civilisation starts, in its middle, and at its end. Peace is something we made up, to hide the fact that we are worse than any other animal in the world.

Consider the body's physical state. Consider the body's mental state. And consider how the biggest problems are always resolved by blood being spilt, no matter where its spilt, as long as its spilt somewhere, whether on a battlefield, or at school.

Unknown said...

I've got t agree with you here Mo. Although your may be resisting to fight, its nearly impossible when it gets down to the level where you whole body and hormones says go punch that guy! :P

Aakansha Virwani said...

Yes, I think humans are peaceful at heart because no matter what the person is or what he does or what kind of life he lives in, he still has someone or something he loves may it be his mother, wife, his country or religion and also every one of us has a conscious, maybe very deep down an inner voice haunting our minds, saying that it’s not right if we do something wrong.

Nnamdi said...

each human being has his or her own characteristics but i guess humans are not a generally peaceful race because when something goes wrong the human race always seems to start to freak out around that time.
and when a baby is born you never have to teach a baby the bad things in life like lying and being greedy because thet already know all of that stuff.Nnamdi

Yoan Aher said...

I believe that humans start out as a peaceful race but then end up using violence to solve problems.

Think of it this way, when a baby is born it is innocent, free of worries but eventually greed and anger will appear because it is human nature and since we cant change who we are i would go on to say that every being starts out as peace loving... but soon enough, what is meant to happen, happens.

Unknown said...

Humans are neither good nor evil. every human being is different from the other..generally humans want action.. they want adventure at a certain point in life. there is a time when a human just cannot live in stagnation, at peace. they always have something to do. if humans are totally peaceful then why are there wars and murders etc.
thus humans are capable of many things and peacefulness is one of them.

Jessica Cox said...

I think each human is peaceful at heart until something attempts to take away their peace or destroy it.
That is - everyone is peacful if they have everything they want .. until someone else wants it or tries to take it away. and does anyone ever have everything they want ? 5 years of economics has taught me .. human wants are unlimited and resources to satisfy them are limited , so at some point in time ..
there is going to have to be a sharing or a fighting over .. resources.

In the sense that , at the end of the day , love or no love , morals or no morals , everyone is going to look out for themselves.
They say in true love there is sacrifice , But sacrifice is never selfless , Im sure if sacrifice wasn't viewed as heroic or .. admirable .. and was frowned upon as weakness in society , less of it would happen. Sacrificing ones own peace for another is .. not selfless , because at the end of the day you know your going to be loved and admired for it and i think its the yearning desire to be loved that someone may sacrifice something for someone else .That is - people sacrifice things for someone else because That person wants to be loved , not out of love for the other person.

My point is , after all the I love you's and the tough times , people may be genuine in their intentions and their heart but human selfishness proves that everyone is just full of shit.They may mean what they say and they may be genuine but human nature .. does not give humans the capability to follow through.
At the end of the day , its the survival of the fittest and if it came down to that , I don't think people would be lining up to lay down their life for some one else.
Im not a pessimist... i'm a realist.
I don't think people would be dancing around with joy if they had to make the decision of choosing their own desires and over another human beings , or that they would find it easy , but that the decision they make is infact inevitable and not a decision that was not made from the start.
Its human nature to look after ones self - because if you don't look after yourself , who else will ? We don't possess the strength or power as human beings to be the sole source of another humans functioning.

So i think the human species , are peaceful at heart .. Until they are forced or compelled to give into their selfish nature. Its a flaw in every human character and I think it would take something supernatural to overcome such a hamartia in human nature.

Unknown said...

At the end of the day, humans are animals. We were "made" to kill. You can look at it this way. A lion. Will fight to the death for their young and land. Good or a bad thing? Good - defending their young. Bad - a life has been lost. Is it thought differently on because it's an animal? To some extent, yes. Is this better? Humans are never satisfied & never will be. We are all crazily selfish, no matter how much we decide to deny it.

stan langton said...

we are all difrent
and what we consider to be peaceful or not is a matter of point and oppion.

Unknown said...

Every human is different. Some people can be very peaceful and wont hurt anyone or anything yet on the other hand there are people that live by violence and fighting, they were brought up with violence. It also depends on you're temper. Some people are good tempered yet others are short tempered,for example you could be messing around with someone and they would be laughting alot and not doing anything yet there could be some people that would just snap and fight with the person.
I think it also depends on what country you are brought up in aswel like for instance, the people in the Middle East would be alot less violent than people in Europe.